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Program Particulars*Times indicated refer to web version of audio(1:24) "Civil Forum on the Presidency"This video contains coverage of the first ten minutes of the Saddleback forum. You can view the video of the rest of the forum on CNN's website. (01:43) Saddleback Church and The Purpose Driven LifeSaddleback Church is located in Lake Forest, California, south of Los Angeles in Orange County. Founded in 1980, the church welcomed 200 people to its first service. Approximately 100,000 people are members of the church, and weekly services regularly draw 20,000 congregants. The Saddleback "campus" also has several distinct venues, each with a different style of worship serving different tastes. At the core of the Saddleback vision is Rick Warren's "purpose-driven paradigm" encapsulated in his books The Purpose Driven Church (1995) and The Purpose Driven Life (2002). The Purpose Driven Life offers a study and action program of "40 days of purpose" based on themes:
(03:22) Third Summit on AIDS and the ChurchWith World AIDS Day on December 1, 2007, Saddleback Church hosted the Third Annual Summit on AIDS and the Church beginning on November 28. The three-day summit included live, in-person addresses by Rick Warren, Kay Warren, Democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Clinton, First Lady of Rwanda Jeannette Kagame, and First Lady of Zambia Maureen Mwanawasa. Five other American presidential candidates delivered videotaped messages. At the conference, Rick Warren addressed the attendees by saying, "People are asking, 'How many people have AIDS?' — but that is the wrong question; rather, we should be asking, 'Why should anyone have AIDS?' You are God's plan to bring relief to this pandemic." (03:55) Peter DruckerPeter Drucker (19092005) was one of the most influential figures of business management in the 20th century. Born in Vienna, Austria, he left Europe during the rise of Nazism and settled in America. He taught for 21 years at New York University, wrote 39 books, served as a management consultant to the corporate world, and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2002. After his death, a profile in BusinessWeek explored Peter Drucker's life and ideas in the business world: Shortly after [Jack] Welch became CEO of General Electric in 1981, for example, he sat down with Drucker at the company's New York headquarters. Drucker posed two questions that arguably changed the course of Welch's tenure: "If you weren't already in a business, would you enter it today?" he asked. "And if the answer is no, what are you going to do about it? Those questions led Welch to his first big transformative idea: that every business under the GE umbrella had to be either No. 1 or No. 2 in its class. If not, Welch decreed that the business would have to be fixed, sold, or closed. It was the core strategy that helped Welch remake GE into one of the most successful American corporations of the past 25 years. (04:33–04:51) Music Element
"Go Where I Send Thee"
(05:45) Definition of MegachurchA megachurch is a large church that can host upwards of 2,000 congregants at a time. While there have historically been large churches accommodating congregations of that size, the latter half of the 20th century saw an increased proliferation of such churches, particularly in suburban America among Evangelical and Pentecostal movements of Protestant Christianity. A megachurch is often non-denominational, and thus free to innovate new methods of attracting and engaging congregants. For example, in order to better engage large audiences of congregants, megachurches incorporate multimedia elements such as video projection, amplified sound, and contemporary or pop-style devotional music. Traditionalists criticize megachurches for focusing more on targeted marketing for a "seeker-friendly" experience, and for a greater reliance on branding, management, and mass entertainment, then for emphasizing personal salvation and Jesus Christ's messages as mandated in the Bible. (05:47) Reference to Bill HybelsBill Hybels (b. 1952) is a pastor who founded Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago suburb of South Barringtcon, Illinois. In July 2007, ChurchReport listed the megachurch as the most influential in the U.S. as chosen by pastors nationwide. The second-most influential, according to the same ranking, was Saddleback Church. Like Rick Warren, Bill Hybels says, "You matter to God." Like Saddleback, Willow Creek is a large church congregation composed of small groups, and was founded in the 1970s and drew an initial congregation of 125 worshippers. Since then, the Willow Creek Community Church campus has expanded to cover a 155-acre area. (06:27) The Largest Church in the WorldThe Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea, is the largest Christian congregation in the world, with 830,000 members as of 2007. The Pentecostal church can accommodate 12,000 congregants inside its structure, with another 20,000 in neighboring buildings. The church was founded in 1958 by David Yonggi Cho (b. 1936), a convert from Buddhism. Another four of the world's ten largest congregations are also located in South Korea. (07:39) Small Groups of "Cells"Malcolm Gladwell wrote a profile piece of Rick Warren and the growth of Saddleback Church called "The Cellular Church" for The New Yorker in 2005. In the article, Gladwell offered an explanation of the effective use of small groups called "cells" that help reinforce the ideals of commitment and community in megachurches. He drew comparisons between how the small study groups are used in modern churches and how they have been used historically in groups like local communist parties and Alcoholics Anonymous recovery groups: When churches—in particular, the megachurches that became the engine of the evangelical movement, in the nineteen-seventies and eighties—began to adopt the cellular model, they found out the same thing. The small group was an extraordinary vehicle of commitment. It was personal and flexible. It cost nothing. It was convenient, and every worshipper was able to find a small group that precisely matched his or her interests. Today, at least forty million Americans are in a religiously based small group, and the growing ranks of small-group membership have caused a profound shift in the nature of the American religious experience. J.J. Helland for The Revealer says Gladwell's comparisons are unfair to the parishioners and his analysis underestimates Warren's appeal:
(08:58) "She's Written a Book on Commitment"Kay Warren wrote Dangerous Surrender, which was released in December 2007. (09:13) "Jesus Said, 'Come and See'"Warren cites an a phrase from the first chapter of the gospel of John, verses 35-51 of the Bible (New Revised Standard Version):
(10:50) Four Different CovenantsThe commitment to Saddleback Church's philosophy is embodied in four "covenants," which echo the elements of the "purpose-driven paradigm":
(12:30) Global Online Community of PastorsPastors.com is Rick Warren's online community and resource center for training pastors. Among the offerings at the Web site are online forums and products such as study kits for schools, small groups, and communities. (17:09) Black PlagueThe Black Plague (also known as the Black Death) was a pandemic originating in China in the 1300s, responsible for some 85 million deaths across Asia and Europe. It's commonly believed that the pandemic was an outbreak of bubonic plague spread by rats and fleas. Estimates of 20 to 30 million people died from the effects of the pandemic in Europe and America — roughly one-third of the continent's population at the time. Approximately 100 million people worldwide are projected to be afflicted by HIV/AIDS by 2020. (20:20) P.E.A.C.E. PlanThe P.E.A.C.E. Plan is a five-point plan that places local churches around the world at the heart of a strategy to combat HIV/AIDS and a host of other global issues. The PEACE Plan focuses on "ordinary people, empowered by God, making a difference wherever they are" and is an acronym: Promote reconciliation, Equip leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick, and Educate the next generation. (22:48) World Economic Forum at DavosThe World Economic Forum is a Swiss organization that annually meets in Davos, Switzerland, and attracts many prominent political and economic leaders from around the world. These leaders discuss issues surrounding global economic development. The event also draws high-profile activists and intellectuals trying to draw attention to important global issues such as climate change and poverty. The World Economic Forum annual meeting has also been criticized by anarchist activists and non-governmental organizations as an opportunity for world leaders and corporations to further ideals of economic liberalism and globalization to the detriment of human development. (26:47) "Love Your Neighbor as YourselfWarren cites one of the most quoted verses from the New Testament book of Romans, chapter 13, verses 9-10: The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery; You shall not murder; You shall not steal; You shall not covet"; and any other commandment, are summed up in this word, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore, love is the fulfilling of the law. (27:00) Aspen Ideas InstituteThe Aspen Institute is a non-profit organization fostering the development of international leadership and dialogue. The Institute holds an annual conference called the Aspen Ideas Festival. The conference brings together leaders from politics, business, science, the arts, health, education, religion, and other area to exchange ideas, philosophies, and approaches about issues of global importance. (29:15–31:50) Music Element
"Jesus is Just Alright"
(39:00) "The Friend of Sinners"Christians look to the way Jesus Christ lived his life and befriended people from all parts of society. The seventh chapter from the gospel of Luke, verses 33-35, points to Jesus' example: For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, "He has a demon'; the Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, "Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Nevertheless, wisdom is vindicated by all her children. (40:02) America's PastorIn February 2005, TIME magazine listed their 25 most influential Evangelical leaders in the United States. The magazine named Rick Warren "America's New People's Pastor": These are heady times for Rick Warren. His book The Purpose Driven Life, which says that meaning in life comes through following God's purposes, has sold more than 20 million copies over the past two years and is the best-selling hardback in U.S. history. When he took the podium to pray on the final night of Billy Graham's Los Angeles crusade at the Rose Bowl in November, the 82,000 congregants cheered as if Warren had scored the winning touchdown. And on the eve of the presidential Inauguration, Warren, who pastors the 22,000-member Saddleback megachurch in Lake Forest, Calif., delivered the Invocation at the gala celebration. Later he met with 15 Senators, from both parties, who sought his advice and heard his plan to enlist Saddleback's global network of more than 40,000 churches in tackling such issues as poverty, disease and ignorance. And when 600 senior pastors were asked to name the people they thought had the greatest influence on church affairs in the country, Warren's name came in second only to Billy Graham's. Although Franklin Graham is heir to the throne of the Billy Graham organization, many believe that Warren, 51, is the successor to the elder Graham for the role of America's minister. (40:41) "The Lust of the Flesh…"Warren is paraphrasing a line from the second chapter of the gospel of John 1. The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible uses the term "desire" instead of "lust": Do not love the world or the things in the world. The love of the Father is not in those who love the world; for all that is in the world — the desire of the flesh, the desire of the eyes, the pride in riches — comes not from the Father but from the world. And the world and its desire are passing away, but those who do the will of God live forever. (42:54) Citation of 1 CorinthiansWarren cites a pivotal passage from Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, chapter 9:11-19: If we have sown spiritual good among you, is it too much if we reap your material benefits? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we still more? Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in what is sacrificed on the altar? In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel. But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing this so that they may be applied in my case. Indeed, I would rather die than that — no one will deprive me of my ground for boasting! If I proclaim the gospel, this gives me no ground for boasting, for an obligation is laid on me, and woe to me if I do not proclaim the gospel! For if I do this of my own will, I have a reward; but if not of my own will, I am entrusted with a commission. What then is my reward? Just this: that in my proclamation I may make the gospel free of charge, so as not to make full use of my rights in the gospel. For though I am free with respect to all, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I might win more of them. (48:32) Quote from The Purpose Driven LifeKrista cites a line from the opening chapters of Rick Warren's 2002 book, The Purpose Driven Life: Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. (50:19–52:49) Music Element
"The Last Mile of the Way"
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