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Unheard Cuts with George Ellis
Where to cut? Where to edit? We couldn't include all of Krista's public conversation with George Ellis into an hour of radio, so we're providing additional mp3s if you want to hear more. Ellis discusses at length how the kenotic ethic functions in our world and in the midst of suffering.

Experiencing Kenosis (4:09)
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George Ellis reflects in more depth on why and how the "kenotic ethic" works. He provides examples of why this governing principle may, or may not, prevail in the face of evil.
Science and Quakerism (1:41)
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Ellis fields a question from the WHYY audience asking how his scientific view of the universe is informed by his Quaker faith. He looks to New Testament Scripture for the essence of creation.
The Struggle Continues (1:57)
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Krista poses a difficult question: How do we understand the efficacy of the kenotic ethic, given that suffering remains even after societies are transformed?
 
A Governing Ethic for the Have-Countries (1:26)
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A member of the audience asks what Ellis sees as "the Apartheid of our day." He looks to a kenotic answer for first-world countries.
Transcending the Incomprehensible (2:00)
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In the Q+A session, an audience member asks large questions about the beginning of space and time, and time before time. Ellis looks to analogs in our material universe for the answers.
The Limits of Science (3:39)
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With every scientific discovery, a new batch of questions arise. Ellis doesn't trouble himself with having science answer all the questions, but as a beginning to another field of studies uncertain to mathematicians and scientists.